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Post by JonesInAMillion on Jun 2, 2016 21:53:40 GMT
Got any? Been "done" twice this week  Speeding (60 in a 50 coming down a slip road onto the motorway... Wankers) Bus lane in Cardiff (no road markings and fucking closed roads / diversions everywhere... Again, wankers) |
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Post by Campervan Von Bigglesworth on Jun 2, 2016 22:13:52 GMT
Once got stopped by 2 stunning WPCs in an Allegro near the Brit when they were building it, they asked me if I had anything to say to which I replied "I'm amazed you caught me in an allegro", they let me off with a "don't do it again", that's how policing should be
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Post by JonesInAMillion on Jun 2, 2016 22:24:14 GMT
I love a woman wearing an allegro, really accentuates the curves.
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Post by Time4aPINT on Jun 3, 2016 0:10:56 GMT
Got any? Been "done" twice this week Speeding (60 in a 50 coming down a slip road onto the motorway... Wankers) Bus lane in Cardiff (no road markings and fucking closed roads / diversions everywhere... Again, wankers) You are a menace on the roads, you could have taken someone's eye out with driving like that. |
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Post by swampsnake on Jun 3, 2016 6:05:02 GMT
Got any? Been "done" twice this week Speeding (60 in a 50 coming down a slip road onto the motorway... Wankers) Bus lane in Cardiff (no road markings and fucking closed roads / diversions everywhere... Again, wankers) I think as appropriate punishment a motoring awareness course at Vale Park beckons. |
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Post by The Turtle on Jun 3, 2016 11:00:43 GMT
Just got off a parking ticket. Helps if you've worked in parking and know how to play the process!
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Post by Orbs on Jun 4, 2016 7:17:24 GMT
Just got off a parking ticket. Helps if you've worked in parking and know how to play the process! Awaits rest (and most useful part) of this story........ |
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Post by The Turtle on Jun 4, 2016 7:53:03 GMT
Basically, you want to able to get them on procedural impropriety, a fancy term which means they've made a fuck up in the process somewhere. You have three opportunities to challenge a ticket (PCN) - an informal appeal, a formal representation then a final go at the independent Traffic Penalty Tribunal. TPT is near!y always 50/50 win/lose so hold your nerve and always go to TPT, as the odds are favourable. Officially they would deny this but the independent adjudicator will bust a gut to help the motorist as they consider this to be helping the 'amateur' against the 'professional' which is fair enough when you think about it. They usually find some procedural impropriety that enables them to order the cancellation of the ticket.
In my case I put in an FoI in relation to the car park. A council car park obviously or the FOI would be pointless. Parking services teams hate this - its a ballache putting the info together and time is money. They also have a duty to answer all 'reasonable questions' in relation to your PCN. So when they didn't come back to me within the 20 day FoI period, I sniffed procedural impropriety. I pointed out that they'd ignored my FoI which is actually quite bad and can get councils into serious shit with the ombudsman (fines etc) but also asked whether this amounted to procedural impropriety in the processing of the PCN. If they considered it did and were prepared to cancel the PCN I made it clear i would then have no need of the FoI data, giving them an easy way out to save themselves far more time and money than the £50 I owed them. And they did. If they hadn't I would've gone back with further questions hoping that one of their replies contained a mistake (they often get dates or costs wrong) which would be grounds again for procedural impropriety.
In short, stick at it. They don't care about your £50, they make thousands from P&D machines. Contrary to popular belief Councils make nothing from PCNs, usually covering costs only but often not even that. They don't want to go toTPT as they know its 50/50 and have to have everything bob on to win. I know this tedious shit because I had to cover for the parking services manager at TPT cases on occasion. Played 5, won 2 drawn 1, lost 2, a perfect 50/50 record!
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Post by Revolver Ocelot on Jun 4, 2016 9:26:35 GMT
I just don't park like a cunt, never had a ticket in 11 years.
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Post by The Turtle on Jun 4, 2016 9:37:53 GMT
That's a fair point, most people are absolutely bang to rights and complain out of irritation or embarrassment at getting caught. I was confused by misleading signage  (Actually, I genuinely was, thinking that parking after 6pm there was no charge, but in small letters further down there was a night charge on Saturday evenings only. My fault for being too stupid or rushed to read all the way down to the bottom it's true but it wasn't like I just couldn't be arsed to buy a ticket and see if I could get away with it, then make a fuss about being caught) |
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Post by Campervan Von Bigglesworth on Jun 6, 2016 19:49:20 GMT
Can't you just suggest if they don't cancel the ticket, persons unknown might smash up their parking machines with a sledge hammer? Cost benefit again
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Post by Orbs on Jun 6, 2016 20:01:59 GMT
Basically, you want to able to get them on procedural impropriety, a fancy term which means they've made a fuck up in the process somewhere. You have three opportunities to challenge a ticket (PCN) - an informal appeal, a formal representation then a final go at the independent Traffic Penalty Tribunal. TPT is near!y always 50/50 win/lose so hold your nerve and always go to TPT, as the odds are favourable. Officially they would deny this but the independent adjudicator will bust a gut to help the motorist as they consider this to be helping the 'amateur' against the 'professional' which is fair enough when you think about it. They usually find some procedural impropriety that enables them to order the cancellation of the ticket. In my case I put in an FoI in relation to the car park. A council car park obviously or the FOI would be pointless. Parking services teams hate this - its a ballache putting the info together and time is money. They also have a duty to answer all 'reasonable questions' in relation to your PCN. So when they didn't come back to me within the 20 day FoI period, I sniffed procedural impropriety. I pointed out that they'd ignored my FoI which is actually quite bad and can get councils into serious shit with the ombudsman (fines etc) but also asked whether this amounted to procedural impropriety in the processing of the PCN. If they considered it did and were prepared to cancel the PCN I made it clear i would then have no need of the FoI data, giving them an easy way out to save themselves far more time and money than the £50 I owed them. And they did. If they hadn't I would've gone back with further questions hoping that one of their replies contained a mistake (they often get dates or costs wrong) which would be grounds again for procedural impropriety. In short, stick at it. They don't care about your £50, they make thousands from P&D machines. Contrary to popular belief Councils make nothing from PCNs, usually covering costs only but often not even that. They don't want to go toTPT as they know its 50/50 and have to have everything bob on to win. I know this tedious shit because I had to cover for the parking services manager at TPT cases on occasion. Played 5, won 2 drawn 1, lost 2, a perfect 50/50 record! Nice one Turts for such a concise response. I got one a few months back "Free parking for 2 hours" in big writing - underneath it said "ticket required" in smaller writing. I didn't see that bit. £25. Cunts. |
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Post by happycarrot on Jun 6, 2016 20:02:01 GMT
I just don't park like a cunt, never had a ticket in 11 years. Ever thought of getting a car? |
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Post by Campervan Von Bigglesworth on Jun 7, 2016 9:38:51 GMT
I just don't park like a cunt, never had a ticket in 11 years. Ever thought of getting a cat? Sounds like a gay thing to do. |
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Post by happycarrot on Jun 7, 2016 9:49:33 GMT
Ever thought of getting a cat? Sounds like a gay thing to do. I always thought gays had those pink bikes with shopping baskets on and went extra fast over speed bumps on their risque saddles. I bet John Inman had Hello Kitty wheel spokes on his |
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Post by Campervan Von Bigglesworth on Jun 7, 2016 10:46:52 GMT
Men should not own cats. End of.
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Post by happycarrot on Jun 7, 2016 11:08:28 GMT
Men should not own cats. End of. I think with this EU thing, all men between 23 and 26 will have to own either a cat or a lawnmower. Not sure on the precise details as didn't read the brochure properly as they were arresting a black bloke on Cops for stealing a bottle of Mr Pibb from a 7-11 and got distracted. Was somewhere in the small print near the back just under the bit about France or China or something having a dwarf tax on long haul flights |
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Post by The Turtle on Jun 7, 2016 21:05:49 GMT
Men should not own cats. End of. Cats are ace. Fact. No man should ever be seen walking a dog smaller than an Airedale. Acceptable size dog for a man to be seen in public with:  |
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Post by happycarrot on Jun 7, 2016 21:17:20 GMT
The dog on the right is obviously a hooligan and about to kick off. Looks well tough.
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Post by RickyFullerBeer on Dec 9, 2016 23:20:03 GMT
Had a fine through from Civil Enforcement ltd today. No evidence, no previous contact and an unsigned document. Threatening to take me to court if I haven't paid £140 by tomorrow, for parking in the permit only bay at Harpland's Hospital. It says I've been clocked by ANPR camera's with no evidence of this.
I'm thinking fuck them, I'm not paying it. Quick look at google suggests they've no legal jurisdiction and I'm sure non-statutory fines are not enforceable?
Any advice?
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(Actually, I genuinely was, thinking that parking after 6pm there was no charge, but in small letters further down there was a night charge on Saturday evenings only. My fault for being too stupid or rushed to read all the way down to the bottom it's true but it wasn't like I just couldn't be arsed to buy a ticket and see if I could get away with it, then make a fuss about being caught)
