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Post by onthewall on Aug 23, 2011 17:50:24 GMT
In the late 70's when I was a nipper, it went off a lot at away matches, usually drunken Stoke idiots starting it. Blackpool in 1978 was utter carnage. On the 6 o'clock news I seem to remember. Mansfield, Oldham, Burnley, and many others. A different sort of hooligan then turned up and the gang thing started, I have been to about 60/70 away grounds with stoke and the worst was indeed Birmingham, however the Zenith Data Systems Cup Final at Wembley between Chelsea and Middlesbough was another nightmare of a game. Blackpool 78, was that when the refreshments bar was laid to waste and the grass banks at the back of the stand were on fire when we left the ground? Yes it was, 2 hotels destroyed on the friday night and a drunken attempt to burn down the tower  |
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Post by onthewall on Aug 23, 2011 17:52:31 GMT
1978  1978? Re-read what I put and figure it out ;D Yes but us old boys have always said that Ninian park back in 78 was a day we got battered, just like your story.  |
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Post by onthewall on Aug 23, 2011 17:59:08 GMT
Dare I say Stoke?  Yes you may, having lived around the country we do have an unfortunate reputation, especially going back in time. I have met many away fan who has enjoyed our hospitality |
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Post by jamlander on Aug 23, 2011 18:04:34 GMT
Blackpool 78, was that when the refreshments bar was laid to waste and the grass banks at the back of the stand were on fire when we left the ground? Yes it was, 2 hotels destroyed on the friday night and a drunken attempt to burn down the tower ;D I really shouldn't laugh ;D As I've said when my boy asked to start going to away matches my first thought was Nooooooooooo! |
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Post by irbaboon on Aug 23, 2011 18:06:49 GMT
I have seen shot loads of trouble at the old vic, we were a vicious bunch of cunts back in the day, no one liked coming to Stoke |
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Post by jamlander on Aug 23, 2011 18:08:48 GMT
Dare I say Stoke? Yes you may, having lived around the country we do have an unfortunate reputation, especially going back in time. I have met many away fan who has enjoyed our hospitality Does make you cringe does't it? I remember talking to one of my female clients, an Alex season ticket holder and child court welfare officer who's 14 year old son was kicked for no reason by a Stoke fan  |
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Post by irbaboon on Aug 23, 2011 18:14:15 GMT
Yes you may, having lived around the country we do have an unfortunate reputation, especially going back in time. I have met many away fan who has enjoyed our hospitality Does make you cringe does't it? I remember talking to one of my female clients, an Alex season ticket holder and child court welfare officer who's 14 year old son was kicked for no reason by a Stoke fan I remember a Vale Fan (Girl) getting some serious abuse from Stoke fans as she was walking home under the Bridge on Wheildon Road (just below FWB) back 92, me and some mates actually stuck up for her and almost got into bother with our own fans. I can take group violence as it happens and if you are caught up then I will fight my corner but that was really just not on |
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Post by onthewall on Aug 23, 2011 19:05:46 GMT
Does make you cringe does't it? I remember talking to one of my female clients, an Alex season ticket holder and child court welfare officer who's 14 year old son was kicked for no reason by a Stoke fan I remember a Vale Fan (Girl) getting some serious abuse from Stoke fans as she was walking home under the Bridge on Wheildon Road (just below FWB) back 92, me and some mates actually stuck up for her and almost got into bother with our own fans. I can take group violence as it happens and if you are caught up then I will fight my corner but that was really just not on I once worked with a comic who wrote books with his brother about football hooligans, Eddie Brimstone was his name, they were Watford hooligans  When they asked me who i supported and i replied Stoke their eyes lit up. "Our boys always talk about getting battered at your place"  Loads of others like this with different teams but the most embarrassing was sitting in a de-brief meeting for an England match. When the Chief of Police said there had been no problems at all apart from one incident in the car park after the match when a bus load of stoke fans had attacked and destroyed a bus of Bolton fans, the whole room just turned and looked at me |
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Post by Chairman Meow on Aug 23, 2011 19:20:58 GMT
I remember a Vale Fan (Girl) getting some serious abuse from Stoke fans as she was walking home under the Bridge on Wheildon Road (just below FWB) back 92, me and some mates actually stuck up for her and almost got into bother with our own fans. I can take group violence as it happens and if you are caught up then I will fight my corner but that was really just not on I once worked with a comic who wrote books with his brother about football hooligans, Eddie Brimstone was his name, they were Watford hooligans When they asked me who i supported and i replied Stoke their eyes lit up. "Our boys always talk about getting battered at your place" Loads of others like this with different teams but the most embarrassing was sitting in a de-brief meeting for an England match. When the Chief of Police said there had been no problems at all apart from one incident in the car park after the match when a bus load of stoke fans had attacked and destroyed a bus of Bolton fans, the whole room just turned and looked at me ;D You would have thought that the police would be more logical than to place the blame on you. |
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Post by jamlander on Aug 23, 2011 20:20:35 GMT
I once worked with a comic who wrote books with his brother about football hooligans, Eddie Brimstone was his name, they were Watford hooligans When they asked me who i supported and i replied Stoke their eyes lit up. "Our boys always talk about getting battered at your place" Loads of others like this with different teams but the most embarrassing was sitting in a de-brief meeting for an England match. When the Chief of Police said there had been no problems at all apart from one incident in the car park after the match when a bus load of stoke fans had attacked and destroyed a bus of Bolton fans, the whole room just turned and looked at me ;D You would have thought that the police would be more logical than to place the blame on you. You haven't met him  |
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Post by Nyron Nonceworthy on Aug 24, 2011 12:50:13 GMT
I saw a smidge of mither at a few away days with the lads last season. We got the train with a load of Stoke lads to Wigan, Wolves were en route to Blackburn on the same train. Absolutely no bother at all until we got out at Wigan and the Wolves lads started shouting as we got off, a Stokie picked up a bin from the platform and chucked it at them on the train. The police came into the pub about an hour later, marched him out and sent him home. I was also there for that bit of Bolton handbags... not amongst the trouble may I add. The Bolton 'trouble' was just cringeworthy. A bunch of teenage faggots giving it the 'come on' gestures, pretending to chase eachother for a bit before eventually getting bored and fucking off. Also the pretend clambering over the concrete barriers into the Bolton fans inside the ground. If you're going to get involved, at least have a bit of a fucking scrap. Many cunts on both sides that day. There's not a lot that goes on nowadays really. It's all organised and out of the way of the game if there's any at all. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2011 13:25:59 GMT
My ladies old man talks about the trouble they used to get into in the 70's, whether it was sought after or not, said there were some proper fucking nutters back then. A lot of it kicking off at the Vic. Also said Stamford Bridge was a horrible place to go.
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Post by Rootsreggaepotters on Aug 24, 2011 16:15:58 GMT
Went to bristol city twice in the space of four or so days in 94/95, one in the league and the other in the fa cup. Fucking kicked off big time in the ground at one of them, managers on the pitch with microphones telling everyone to chill out. Too late, it was like tactical warfare from the stokies. I've never been into this shit but most of the folk i used to go with didn't mind a dabble. Weird times.
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Post by jamlander on Aug 24, 2011 17:03:59 GMT
My ladies old man talks about the trouble they used to get into in the 70's, whether it was sought after or not, said there were some proper fucking nutters back then. A lot of it kicking off at the Vic. Also said Stamford Bridge was a horrible place to go. Chelsea fans used to infitrate the Boothen End on a regular basis - as the game started they would start to chant, scuffles followed and the police would take them out and walk them to the away end. I gave up going to Stamford Bridge long before I gave up going to away games. |
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Post by onthewall on Aug 24, 2011 17:06:17 GMT
It's really difficult to judge other grounds as i only have experience of going with the rough necks from Stoke, may be it's just rough at these places when we go. I can't see Norwich fans getting the same reception on their travels as we do. I'm a lover not a fighter as Micheal Jackson once said and before you strat that's the only think i have in common with him..... apart from the offthewall connection obviously |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2011 19:03:33 GMT
My ladies old man talks about the trouble they used to get into in the 70's, whether it was sought after or not, said there were some proper fucking nutters back then. A lot of it kicking off at the Vic. Also said Stamford Bridge was a horrible place to go. Chelsea fans used to infitrate the Boothen End on a regular basis - as the game started they would start to chant, scuffles followed and the police would take them out and walk them to the away end. I gave up going to Stamford Bridge long before I gave up going to away games. Yeah he's told me about the infiltrations Jammers, sounded nuts. Said he saw some horrible shit on away days, also said the shit had some 'right 'orribe cunts as well' ;D. |
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