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Post by Captain Lockheed on Apr 21, 2012 16:03:43 GMT
Whats he done now? Its not his fault he keeps playing it's his fault he can't hit the goal with 3 attempts inside the box, one after only 10 minutes and bang centre 8 yards out. His miss at the end was just about the same sort of area Ric scored against Villa, a striker should go across the keeper, not try and knock the head off a geordie in row zz they have time off and not played for 2 weeks, he can't be tired after 10 minutes Have to agree with that mate. I like Walters a lot but the guys clearly lacking in front of goal lately. Bad miss against Wolves and failed to hit the target today when required. I cant blame Walters for a loss of form, it happens to every player. The fault lies with Pulis and his persistance in playing him. I think Pulis has done a great job for us but sometimes his stubborn attitude really annoys me. Change it Pulis, the fans deserve better
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Post by aworldofmyown on Apr 21, 2012 16:24:54 GMT
was wilko injured or taken off for been poor again?
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Post by The Swahili Bastardizers on Apr 21, 2012 16:28:04 GMT
Pulis on Walters:
'Jon boy could have had a hat trick but he's a great lad and i think the world of him..'
'Newcastle won because they were more clinical..'
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Post by Captain Lockheed on Apr 21, 2012 16:44:06 GMT
Pulis on Walters: 'Jon boy could have had a hat trick but he's a great lad and i think the world of him..' The thing is, during this summers transfer window we will hopefully be trying to get new players in and it seems we have already been looking at new strikers, but who the hells going to come ? Unless someone saws Walters` leg off he will always be in the side. Fullers fed up and is packing his bags, Jerome wants out cus he never gets a full game and Kenwyne... well, ok Kenwynes happy snoozing in the dug out and sees a sub appearance as a distraction but it must be so frustrating watching Walters miss chance after chance and know that the gaffer thinks hes better than you. Come on Pulis, a few games to go now, lets a least try and win some of them
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Post by The Swahili Bastardizers on Apr 21, 2012 18:47:48 GMT
"We have got four games to go and we have just been talking about it now that we have been getting a little bit greedy.
"We have been in the Premier League now for four years, we were nice and comfortable with six or seven games to go, we have been to three quarter-finals, we have been to the final of the FA Cup, we have been into the last 30 of Europe. It's been not a bad four years and we mustn't get greedy."
So basically enjoy your lot and don't ask for more i think is the tone of that statement..
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Post by Deleted on Apr 21, 2012 19:04:55 GMT
Mustn't get greedy or mustn't expect a result away from home?
I thought it'd be 2-0 but he'd use this statement if we lost all remaining games.
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Post by Captain Lockheed on Apr 22, 2012 10:00:58 GMT
The result was fair, I wouldnt mind losing the last four games if we actually picked in form players and had a go at teams for once. At this stage of the season what have we got to lose ?
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Post by Chairman Meow on Apr 22, 2012 11:36:17 GMT
To be honest this season can't end quick enough. Back to basics next season, solid defence and two wingers.
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Post by Uncle Heinrich on Apr 22, 2012 11:44:55 GMT
To be honest this season can't end quick enough. Back to basics next season, solid defence and two wingers. ...and a normal campaign without the extra Thursday night games in Eastern Europe chucked in. I've seen people saying that they're worried about next season already, this squad has kept us up comfortably with those extra games, we'll do better without them.
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Post by Chairman Meow on Apr 22, 2012 12:27:04 GMT
To be honest this season can't end quick enough. Back to basics next season, solid defence and two wingers. ...and a normal campaign without the extra Thursday night games in Eastern Europe chucked in. I've seen people saying that they're worried about next season already, this squad has kept us up comfortably with those extra games, we'll do better without them. I wasn't saying that we would go down, certainly not with pulis at the helm. Hopefully we can buy a new winger so we've always got two fit wingers on the pitch, this would make a world of difference.
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Post by PickSCFC on Apr 22, 2012 14:46:56 GMT
To be honest this season can't end quick enough. Back to basics next season, solid defence and two wingers. ...and a normal campaign without the extra Thursday night games in Eastern Europe chucked in. I've seen people saying that they're worried about next season already, this squad has kept us up comfortably with those extra games, we'll do better without them. Did you go to any of the europe away games?
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Post by Uncle Heinrich on Apr 22, 2012 14:53:34 GMT
I wasn't saying that we would go down, certainly not with pulis at the helm. Hopefully we can buy a new winger so we've always got two fit wingers on the pitch, this would make a world of difference. Oh yeah, I wasn't really aiming my post at you, just carrying on your point with more reasons for this season to end and to why we should be positive about next season. Did you go to any of the europe away games? No, why?
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Post by PickSCFC on Apr 22, 2012 14:58:08 GMT
I wasn't saying that we would go down, certainly not with pulis at the helm. Hopefully we can buy a new winger so we've always got two fit wingers on the pitch, this would make a world of difference. Oh yeah, I wasn't really aiming my post at you, just carrying on your point with more reasons for this season to end and to why we should be positive about next season. Did you go to any of the europe away games? No, why? Because the way you speak your only bothered about league games and the europa is just a pointless mickey mouse tournament. Had you gone to one of the games you wouldnt have seen it like that, you would have been wanting more. We are never going to win the league, our best chance of silverware is through the cups. Im not saying that we should be winning cups as there are far better teams out there but for me a cup run makes my season, not finishing in the top 10 say in the league
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Post by Captain Lockheed on Apr 22, 2012 18:10:02 GMT
Oh yeah, I wasn't really aiming my post at you, just carrying on your point with more reasons for this season to end and to why we should be positive about next season. No, why? Because the way you speak your only bothered about league games and the europa is just a pointless mickey mouse tournament. Had you gone to one of the games you wouldnt have seen it like that, you would have been wanting more. We are never going to win the league, our best chance of silverware is through the cups. Im not saying that we should be winning cups as there are far better teams out there but for me a cup run makes my season, not finishing in the top 10 say in the league The cup runs have only come since we`ve been in the prem though, unless you count the very rare 5th round appearance and tin pot tournaments. Premier League status is the priority always, higher up we finish the more cash we get, the better option for new players and hence better cup runs. Competing and doing well in the league is the precursor for everything else
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Post by Dharma Bum on Apr 23, 2012 11:13:21 GMT
Really poor performance against a team who showed why they've been up there all season.
I still maintain that Newcatle's defence isn't up to much (Krul aside), but their midfield, as a unit, is as good as any I've seen Stoke play in the Prem, except maybe the Man Utd team with Giggs, Scholes and Ronaldo.
For the first goal our lads were ball watching, and Wilson was well beaten on the wing.
For the second I thought Bego fucked up. He came for the ball and then stopped in no-man's land, but if he'd carried on running out he would have beaten Cisse to it.
Third goal was a class strike.
Starting to feel embarrassed for Walters now. Give him a break, TP. Take the pressure off him. He hasn't scored from open play since November: he knows it, the team knows it, and the fans know it too.
Went to a titty bar before the game, so the day wasn't a complete write-off.
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Post by Chairman Meow on Apr 23, 2012 11:25:28 GMT
Oh yeah, I wasn't really aiming my post at you, just carrying on your point with more reasons for this season to end and to why we should be positive about next season. No, why? Because the way you speak your only bothered about league games and the europa is just a pointless mickey mouse tournament. Had you gone to one of the games you wouldnt have seen it like that, you would have been wanting more. We are never going to win the league, our best chance of silverware is through the cups. Im not saying that we should be winning cups as there are far better teams out there but for me a cup run makes my season, not finishing in the top 10 say in the league I went to Istanbul, but I'm agreeing that we need to focus on the league next season, having cup runs are great but we need to improve again before we mount a serious challenge. Having said that Istanbul was the single greatest day in my stoke supporting life.
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Post by Campervan Von Bigglesworth on Apr 23, 2012 13:32:29 GMT
now you're been greedy, mine was the 1-1 away draw at Wigan in 1997 when Beest scored from the half way line..... or it might have been another year.
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Post by PickSCFC on Apr 23, 2012 16:50:22 GMT
Because the way you speak your only bothered about league games and the europa is just a pointless mickey mouse tournament. Had you gone to one of the games you wouldnt have seen it like that, you would have been wanting more. We are never going to win the league, our best chance of silverware is through the cups. Im not saying that we should be winning cups as there are far better teams out there but for me a cup run makes my season, not finishing in the top 10 say in the league The cup runs have only come since we`ve been in the prem though, unless you count the very rare 5th round appearance and tin pot tournaments. Premier League status is the priority always, higher up we finish the more cash we get, the better option for new players and hence better cup runs. Competing and doing well in the league is the precursor for everything else When we were in the championship the aim was to get to the premier league, we did it. We are never going to win the premier league so i think the cups are very important, we have enough to do well in the league and cups. A lot of people seem to think that doing well in one means you cant in the other
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Post by PickSCFC on Apr 23, 2012 16:52:18 GMT
Because the way you speak your only bothered about league games and the europa is just a pointless mickey mouse tournament. Had you gone to one of the games you wouldnt have seen it like that, you would have been wanting more. We are never going to win the league, our best chance of silverware is through the cups. Im not saying that we should be winning cups as there are far better teams out there but for me a cup run makes my season, not finishing in the top 10 say in the league I went to Istanbul, but I'm agreeing that we need to focus on the league next season, having cup runs are great but we need to improve again before we mount a serious challenge. Having said that Istanbul was the single greatest day in my stoke supporting life. So when we play in the cups we should rest the whole of the first team? We can do well in both
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Post by Uncle Heinrich on Apr 23, 2012 17:39:57 GMT
A lot of people seem to think that doing well in one means you cant in the other The domestic cups (league and FA cup) are worked around the league fixtures, so you don't have to go for one or the other, you can go full pelt at all of them. The Europa league is completely different, it's not taken into consideration when the league fixtures are produced and massively affects the league form. The only teams that don't treat it like a reserve trophy are the ones that have enough to cement what they want in the league anyway, like the elite teams in shit leagues that breeze through their league matches... or mid table teams like us and Fulham that will finish mid-table either way (until it looks like that our league future could be affected, then it's a reserve trophy for us too); for teams like Spurs that need to be at 100% to get into the top 4, they use it as a chance to give the reserve/young players a proper game. But yeah, the domestic cups are a different matter and we can really go for them without worrying about how it affects the league (because they're worked into our fixtures). It's nice to have had a season in Europe under our belt though, we ruffled the feathers of some big European names and comfortably stayed in the league... it's been fucking ace. I'll be happy to have a proper campaign again next season, who knows, in a few years we could be stronger and have an even better go at Europe.
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