Shuey Sacked??

[bobbytwat]

Almost feel sorry for him but he will get a nice payout and he might end up back at Plymouth when they sack Rooney in a few months time

[Humphrey Syphon]

I do feel sorry for him, he probably deserved a little longer but then again how many times have we accused the club of not acting swiftly enough ?

I’m hoping this works out and I’m looking forward to seeing how Pèlach operates with this group and how tactically aware he is during the games. Good luck Narcis.

One things for sure, if this goes downhill fast there’s nobody to blame but Walters.

[arkansasstokefan]

I’ll give Stoke city this. This is the first time they actually had someone lined up to replace the manager. They were firing.

So at least they’ve learned not to fire somebody until they hired somebody

[arkansasstokefan]

I’ll give Stoke city this. This is the first time they actually had someone lined up to replace the manager. They were firing.

So at least they’ve learned not to fire somebody until they hired somebody

[southcoaststokie]

There is no way on earth shuey's win percentage was anywhere near as bad as Lambert or Nathan Jones for example.
He wasn't an awful manager, he was likeable in a lot of ways but perhaps it was just time for a change.
I think when Walters and coates thanked him for his efforts they were genuine.
We were sinking into league one , under Neil and shuey steadied the ship.

Shuey was liked and decent,but struggling to move the club forwards ...it was all a bit 2 steps forward and two steps backwards...a bit treading water

Good luck to him though, I genuinely think he is capable of coming good somewhere.

[Campervan Von Bigglesworth]

Was a very classy statement from Shu in the circumstances. Still a mystery, I hope SJW knows what he's doing because if this goes tits up, he's burned a lot of social capital!

[southcoaststokie]

Last nights performance hinted heavily that Schumacher wasn't the problem.

I am going to avoid focusing on top flight stoke city players like abdoulaye Faye and Robert huth , who are obviously light years ahead of our current defenders .

But for real, mike Doyle,Ian Cranston, sergi shtaniuk , Ryan shawcross, andy Wilkinson and carl Dickinson played for us in the championship and even League one and this lot are nowhere near that level.
That's the level we need to be competitive and we are miles off it .

Given the players he had to work with it , it's perhaps unrealistic to see shuey doing much better than he actually did .

I can have some sympathy with Walters and coates feeling the need for a fresh shake of the dice ...but when your recruitment is miles off...what can you realistically expect Schumacher,pelach and co to achieve.

How are stoke city meant to get promoted without players of the level of shawcross and Wilkinson.

Makes no sense, not going to happen.

[boldboy52]

It's a good job the Coates family have bet365 and their ill gotten gains to fund Stoke City FC.
But they're not very good at it so far.
Winners with mug punters but massive losers with SCFC progress in the Championship.

[southcoaststokie]

According to Alan Nixon ( The Sun) , Stoke approached two "senior managers" last season to take over from Schumacher, but were turned down twice .
Nixon won't name names , but it is widely rumoured one of them was Steve Cooper.

For sure Stoke City , is about as political as 10 downing Street, and shuey's face didn't fit with someone/ some bodies .

Hard to find football faults with shuey's tactics and results during last seasons run in ( play off form?)

But Pelach was lined up before Oxford v stoke city and as soon as the powers that be got the performance and result they wanted , they acted .

I can see, why two senior managers would turn Stoke down...you don't need to be a conspiracy theorist to suggest Stoke is run by people who are sly , political and looking after themselves.

[Mr_Sausage]

Getting rid of Schuey in the way they did was a cluster clusterfuck of the highest order.

I've been banging the drum for us to get Cundle back. I also wanted Stansfield above any other striker. He reminds me of Vardy in some ways.

I think there is some truth in the rumour about us not getting Cundle. I'd suspect that was what the rumoured bust up was about.

I still believe that, given the type of players he was going for, and some time, Schuey would have got us challenging for the play off places.

The second half debacle against Oxford will go down in history with the worst of our performances. Why does spanner foot Wilmot ever get a game? He's consistent I suppose, just consistently shit.

The midfield is as weak as a water drinkers piss.

Why did the new guy play Koumas on the right instead of the left where he's consistently good? Was it to ensure that Bae could play?

It's all gone to shit hasn't it?

I just hope this new fella turns out to be a coaching God, as we surely need one.

[southcoaststokie]

There's a famous Theodore Roosevelt quote ...it's not the critic who counts , it's the man in the arena valiantly trying to do his best ...blah blah blah

Every Stoke fan knows this is true because they split their sides laughing last season, when Birmingham city sacked Johnny Eustace ,a man widely considered to be making the best of a difficult situation, to bring in a more high profile coach (Wayne Rooney) .

A year on and it is now the turn of Stoke's fans to ponder if Roosevelt was right and Schumacher was deserving of more respect than he was given.

[Campervan Von Bigglesworth]

He probably wouldnt have mov3ed us on significantly but he would have stabilised us I'm sure, they new gaffer has relegation written all over him, he could be gone by Xmas.

[Time4aPINT]

Sept 28, 2024 20:31:33 GMT Campervan Von Bigglesworth said:

He probably wouldnt have mov3ed us on significantly but he would have stabilised us I'm sure, they new gaffer has relegation written all over him, he could be gone by Xmas.

Normally I'd say you were being stupid for suggesting the new gaffer could be gone by Xmas but if he doesn't get the team performing and picking up a few wins very quickly then he might not even last that long.

[Campervan Von Bigglesworth]

I wish I was being stupid, but its a disastrous start. Team looks worse than it did with Shuey in charge. THought he's go 4-4-2

[southcoaststokie]

In the sentinel...

His attitude now is " Right! I have got to prove some people wrong now..."

That's the right attitude and I wish him well.

[Campervan Von Bigglesworth]

worth a watch

[southcoaststokie]

As the video hints , a culture shift and a change in mentality is the only way out of our current malaise.

The facts are managers and players are richly rewarded at stoke , year after year , for failing to finish in the top 14 of the championship.

Come to Stoke , fail and bag the cash big time.

It has to stop .

Viktor Johansson and Sam Gallagher TBF look like two guys going out on the pitch to boss it and get the job done.

But that is two players out of a squad of maybe 22 ?

It's not enough.

We need players more physical, more powerful, more positive, more menacing and more brave and more in your face to get out of the championship.

We need more than 2 Viktor Johansson and Sam Gallagher's.

[Campervan Von Bigglesworth]

Obviously, living abroad doesnt give me the same sense f the cultural piece. i.e. is the club cold and divorced from its fan base, if so, since when and why?

[southcoaststokie]

Speaking for myself when we went up , local lads Andy Wilkinson ( stone) , Carl Dickson ( Derbyshire) , Ryan shawcross ( Chester ) weren't shy about getting stuck in and dishing it out. " Imported " players like Ricardo fuller , Glenn Whelan and Liam Lawrence likewise.
Very very easy to like.

Then we get promoted and we have the likes of James beattie , abdoulaye faye ,Robert huth dishing it out . Very physical, very tough opponents.
Very easy players for stokies to like .

By the end of mark Hughes , start of gary rowetts tenure , stoke fans were being asked to pay good money to watch the powderpuff efforts of saddo berahino , Kevin wimmer , tom Ince co . Players without muscle , without fight without attitude. Players not fit to lace the boots of Wilko , huth and co . Players miles below their level in attitude, talent and endeavour.
Players hard to like .
Apathy and disconnect were inevitable.

Any manager who can turn the good ship stoke city around is a very good manager indeed .

To say the managers job at stoke is challenging is an understatement .

But good luck to pelach. He will need it!