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Post by Donkey on Jul 25, 2011 21:41:45 GMT
I remember years ago having an argument with ukyestony (quelle suprise) who said Stoke's rightfull place was Top 6 in the top flight, I said given we've managed that a handfull of times in our history how is that our rightfull place ? His response was that that was were they were when he started following Stoke  My response was, well based on your criteria, I must think Stoke's rightfull place is knocking around in the 3rd tier of english football the, as thats where they were when I started following them (had been a few games in the 2nd tier, but not regularly till the end of the Alan Ball era) That's the sort of mentality you tend to get with Newcastle fans. One title challenge in the mid 90's and suddenly they are a big club.  |
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Post by irbaboon on Jul 25, 2011 23:20:52 GMT
I remember years ago having an argument with ukyestony (quelle suprise) who said Stoke's rightfull place was Top 6 in the top flight, I said given we've managed that a handfull of times in our history how is that our rightfull place ? His response was that that was were they were when he started following Stoke My response was, well based on your criteria, I must think Stoke's rightfull place is knocking around in the 3rd tier of english football the, as thats where they were when I started following them (had been a few games in the 2nd tier, but not regularly till the end of the Alan Ball era) That's the sort of mentality you tend to get with Newcastle fans. One title challenge in the mid 90's and suddenly they are a big club. Thig is with the Geordies they are geared to be a massive club they just fucked it all up  |
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Post by Bojantastic on Jul 26, 2011 0:33:13 GMT
I remember years ago having an argument with ukyestony (quelle suprise) who said Stoke's rightfull place was Top 6 in the top flight, I said given we've managed that a handfull of times in our history how is that our rightfull place ? His response was that that was were they were when he started following Stoke My response was, well based on your criteria, I must think Stoke's rightfull place is knocking around in the 3rd tier of english football the, as thats where they were when I started following them (had been a few games in the 2nd tier, but not regularly till the end of the Alan Ball era) That's the sort of mentality you tend to get with Newcastle fans. One title challenge in the mid 90's and suddenly they are a big club. They are a big club to be fair. They must be in the top 5 most supported clubs in the country?  |
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Post by redsaturday on Jul 26, 2011 6:55:08 GMT
Does having a big support mean you are a big club, I think It's more down to winning to be fair.
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Post by irbaboon on Jul 26, 2011 7:52:23 GMT
Does having a big support mean you are a big club, I think It's more down to winning to be fair. Totally agree but they were all geared up to be one of the top six elite at one stage. However they (well King Kev) fucked it up ;D |
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Post by redsaturday on Jul 26, 2011 8:45:42 GMT
Does having a big support mean you are a big club, I think It's more down to winning to be fair. Totally agree but they were all geared up to be one of the top six elite at one stage. However they (well King Kev) fucked it up ;D Yes it always amuses me how they think keegan is a great manager and that they are this massive club. Well everyone else thinks he's wank and theyve won fuck all. They are a joke |
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Post by irbaboon on Jul 26, 2011 9:02:19 GMT
9 million and he is ours |
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Post by Bojantastic on Jul 26, 2011 10:27:38 GMT
Does having a big support mean you are a big club, I think It's more down to winning to be fair. Big and successful are completely different. Leeds are a big club, but they're not very good. Teams like Sheffield Wednesday are big, but again, they're crap atm. |
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Post by redsaturday on Jul 26, 2011 10:46:15 GMT
Does having a big support mean you are a big club, I think It's more down to winning to be fair. Big and successful are completely different. Leeds are a big club, but they're not very good. Teams like Sheffield Wednesday are big, but again, they're crap atm. Too be a big club you have to be successful on a big big stage. So by my reckoning norwich are bigger than Newcastle. |
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Post by Bojantastic on Jul 26, 2011 10:47:37 GMT
What's success got to do with size?  |
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Post by redsaturday on Jul 26, 2011 10:54:34 GMT
What's success got to do with size? A consistently successful club will grow and become bigger, more successful = bigger club |
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Post by Donkey on Jul 26, 2011 12:53:42 GMT
Having lots of fans doesn't make you big. It makes you well supported.
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Post by irbaboon on Jul 26, 2011 13:32:34 GMT
Having lots of fans doesn't make you big. It makes you well supported. Though if you are well supported you expect your club or perceive your club to be big. |
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Post by SuperRickyFuller on Jul 26, 2011 13:35:42 GMT
Having lots of fans doesn't make you big. It makes you well supported. Though if you are well supported you expect your club or perceive your club to be big. A term known as "Geordie Syndrome" |
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Post by irbaboon on Jul 26, 2011 13:45:49 GMT
Though if you are well supported you expect your club or perceive your club to be big. A term known as "Geordie Syndrome" Jay, come on mate there are plenty of Stoke fans over the years that have had the same syndrome, maybe not on the Grande scale as the Geordie s but there non the less. |
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Post by redsaturday on Jul 26, 2011 13:47:34 GMT
Never been in the daylight, is there many locals walking round in manure and chelsea tops, like in staffs, fucking
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Post by SuperRickyFuller on Jul 26, 2011 13:53:56 GMT
A term known as "Geordie Syndrome" Jay, come on mate there are plenty of Stoke fans over the years that have had the same syndrome, maybe not on the Grande scale as the Geordie s but there non the less. I could understand it when we were in Division 2/League 1 under Gudjon, we were a big club for that level However, I've never understood anyone who perceives us as a big club because frankly, we're not |
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Post by irbaboon on Jul 26, 2011 15:56:06 GMT
Jay, come on mate there are plenty of Stoke fans over the years that have had the same syndrome, maybe not on the Grande scale as the Geordie s but there non the less. I could understand it when we were in Division 2/League 1 under Gudjon, we were a big club for that level However, I've never understood anyone who perceives us as a big club because frankly, we're not I believe we are a top flight club as our history suggest but spot on that we are not a BIG club. |
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Post by BusterHighman on Jul 26, 2011 17:27:52 GMT
I'm just unconvinced Crouchy would suit our game. We need players up front who are quick, agile and who can run the channels and harass defenders on the ball. Crouch is an OK finisher and decent with the ball at his feet but he has no mobility at all and is pretty poor in the air when challenged, as he's a powder puff. Add in his age and no doubt massive wages and i just think we can find somebody more suited to our game and better value for money.
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Post by redsaturday on Jul 26, 2011 17:49:08 GMT
I'm just unconvinced Crouchy would suit our game. We need players up front who are quick, agile and who can run the channels and harass defenders on the ball. Crouch is an OK finisher and decent with the ball at his feet but he has no mobility at all and is pretty poor in the air when challenged, as he's a powder puff. Add in his age and no doubt massive wages and i just think we can find somebody more suited to our game and better value for money. Not being funny but who realistically can we bring in who's better |
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