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Post by Sonko's Head on Nov 10, 2012 20:39:31 GMT
I just hate the 'but we won' crap; its like no one gives a shit and just cares about winning I like to see both; today I'd of took the points BUT I expected a bit better performance wise and tactics substitutions didnt work one bit & played a mix of 4-5-1 & 4-4-1-1 with Walters coming off the wing to play the 1 and Adam shoved to the wing...it was pure & of course Stoke win & the amount of times QPR have fucked us over in the past in more than dodgy circumstances its about time; BUT just worried about the future more than just todays game. Might be OTT; shit week & I expected Stoke to be better than they should...just really concerned if we keep this up.
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Post by Time4aPINT on Nov 10, 2012 20:42:42 GMT
Sorry but its not all about winning; even if we were off the pace and won id of said ok but for me we werent even that. If we played Sunderland today we'd of come back with 0 points; if it wasnt for them being so bad at the back it would of been a point max...and if they didnt score in the 1st half with erm...(who was it? haha) is unbelievable. Few positive I can get was N'Zonzi looked good as per, Adam got a goal, Shawcross was fantastic & Begovic did nothing pretty much. But anyone decent we'd of got hammered. & Im not tbh T4AP; because im always so pumped up & so passionate; and if I cant be that then I may aswell give up. Am I classed as a PHW now? Nowt wrong with being 'pumped up and passionate' if you are being rational with it and not just screaming abuse for 90 minutes.
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Post by Sonko's Head on Nov 10, 2012 20:47:13 GMT
Sorry but its not all about winning; even if we were off the pace and won id of said ok but for me we werent even that. If we played Sunderland today we'd of come back with 0 points; if it wasnt for them being so bad at the back it would of been a point max...and if they didnt score in the 1st half with erm...(who was it? haha) is unbelievable. Few positive I can get was N'Zonzi looked good as per, Adam got a goal, Shawcross was fantastic & Begovic did nothing pretty much. But anyone decent we'd of got hammered. & Im not tbh T4AP; because im always so pumped up & so passionate; and if I cant be that then I may aswell give up. Am I classed as a PHW now? Nowt wrong with being 'pumped up and passionate' if you are being rational with it and not just screaming abuse for 90 minutes. I havent! Thats the thing, in Block 20 its me & my old man been gormed at for singing like we have 3 cocks on our heads; Im only critical when it needs be; Pulis is turning me against a player I like in Walters and if some have a good memory I've been sticking up for him when he's been given stick & Pulis is getting me on his back for playing him!. It his job to light fires under arses and he isnt doing it!
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Post by Sonko's Head on Nov 10, 2012 20:52:15 GMT
Im going see a band...who are probably shit so ill reply tomorrow...might of calmed down who knows?
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Post by RickyFullerBeer on Nov 10, 2012 20:52:25 GMT
In the wake of us really needing 3 points on the board, I completely forgot about how much I fucking despise QPR.
I have seen them fuck us over many a time and the way they spend money now really grinds my bollocks. Taraabt was a whining little cunt rash, good on the ball, no end product. As for Granero...what a detestable cunt he really was, opening his beak at every opportunity had me fucking fuming. Real Madrid, are you fucking mad haha
Content with the 3 points, performances was very average.
Bego was fine, 2 centre halves were outstanding, fullbacks were good (especially 2nd half) N'zonzi was very good again and Walters had an ok game. The rest were average.
Crouch does not fit into the way we are playing atm, KJ would be a better option imo.
Ethers was fucked after 30 mins and Adam on the wing was strange but we got away with it.
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Post by One-Two on Nov 10, 2012 23:10:43 GMT
Awesome picture.
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Post by Ribanjo Fuller on Nov 10, 2012 23:26:22 GMT
Don't they auction off the poppy shirts? I'll pay anything for Walters' blood.
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Post by RickyFullerBeer on Nov 10, 2012 23:27:57 GMT
Looking at the table, only Man Citeh have conceded less, and level with 10 conceded with Chelsea But only 3 have scored less
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Post by Donkey on Nov 10, 2012 23:59:25 GMT
Taarabt's decision making is shocking.
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Post by Chairman Meow on Nov 11, 2012 0:01:39 GMT
From MOTD, I can't see what the big pissy hiss fits are for.
Didn't look an amazing match, but something to build on for certain.
About 10 times more stuff happened than the Sunderland game.
Oh yeah, I've missed both wins this season, not seen us win in the flesh for a long time.
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Post by Stokiecat on Nov 11, 2012 0:04:40 GMT
Taarabt's decision making is shocking. I think you mean HILARIOUS.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 11, 2012 9:22:41 GMT
From MOTD, I can't see what the big pissy hiss fits are for. Didn't look an amazing match, but something to build on for certain. About 10 times more stuff happened than the Sunderland game. Oh yeah, I've missed both wins this season, not seen us win in the flesh for a long time. I agree, although I do think MoTD is shit by and large. They showed QPR have many more chances than we did so perhaps the win was a bit lucky, but last week we had many more chances according to MoTD than Norwich and lost so I'll take it.
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Post by PickSCFC on Nov 11, 2012 10:45:50 GMT
We were lucky to win IMO. Thought our defence was really good again but going forward is where the problems are. We are just too slow. Looked better when jones came on. I'd start jones at west ham.
Good win but poor performance. Pulis needs to sort it out because going forward we are abysmal.
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Post by Sonko's Head on Nov 11, 2012 11:37:10 GMT
Might of been a bit harsh yesterday; what do you think lads? ;D
But still far from happy with the performance, our attacking play was poor once more, the switching of 4-5-1 to the 4-4-1-1 which I pray to god wasnt pre-meditated to do this I was confused as hell and it made the team look so unbalanced. Substitutions fair enough but I didnt want us take Adam off; considering he scored and we'd needed go for the 2nd; but if you want go 4-4-2/4-4-1-1 you got take him off considering he's the luxury of the 3 in the middle.
The Walters thing...I like SJW & I dont want to be saying these things and sounding so harsh but its 63 games now (isnt it?).
Does he ever look like scoring? No Does he create chances for others? No
I might be mistaken but for a striker/winger thats his role right? cant fault his commitment (picture proves! which is fucking brilliant ;D) and I wish every Stoke was like that; but would any other attacking player at Stoke or at any other club be played as much as he does for the little affect upfront?.
As for Pulis, I like the 4-5-1 personally; but we arent using it to its full potential get 2 natural wingers on the wings for starters because both Ethers & Kightly do track back and when you have 3 in the middle its tough to get through anyway just let them be a bit more free then we'll see more goals you cant expect to score goals when the wingers first thought is to defend.
Right then the positives as I like to end on a happy note - Happy we won, the amount of times I've walked back absolutely gutted after a top performance and we get nothing its about time we played poor, won and as it was QPR who have always screwed us over it was extra sweet. Adam got his first goal and watching it on MOTD its nice to see a midfielder in that position, the defence was solid for the large part minus the couple of lapses which if against a better side could of been punished & Wilko at RB & G-Cam at LB was much better than the role's reverse for me.
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Post by SamTheLost on Nov 11, 2012 11:48:32 GMT
Walters had a header that flashed just wide of the near post and Cesar was nowhere, if he'd been an inch further forward then he would've buried it. So;
Does he ever look like scoring? Yes.
Does he ever create chances for others? Yes. (last assist was against Wigan I think)
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Post by Sonko's Head on Nov 11, 2012 11:58:52 GMT
So you're saying what he's doing is enough to leave Kightly/Ethers out to make sure he plays?.
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Post by One-Two on Nov 11, 2012 12:23:30 GMT
Walters had a header that flashed just wide of the near post and Cesar was nowhere, if he'd been an inch further forward then he would've buried it. So; Does he ever look like scoring? Yes. Does he ever create chances for others? Yes. (last assist was against Wigan I think) His last assist was yesterday for Adam!
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Post by Donkey on Nov 11, 2012 13:10:24 GMT
Awesome picture. Prefer this...
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Post by Orbs on Nov 11, 2012 13:16:04 GMT
I am amazed that people can get so pissed off and annoyed when we have won. (I'm on about the other place obvs)
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Post by Sonko's Head on Nov 11, 2012 13:21:35 GMT
I am amazed that people can get so pissed off and annoyed when we have won. (I'm on about the other place obvs) To be fair I was yesterday ;D. Woke up this morning and I was like holy fuck what happened to me? Might have my odd moments of rage with Stoke BUT yesterday jesus christ it was weird; some points are still valid in my opinion, just yeah way OTT.
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